126. The Kacie Woody Story / Haunted and Random Facts of Arkansas


The internet has become the means of our day to day. There are great things on the internet, but it can also be a place of some scary things.  This week Beth shares the tragic true crime story of the abduction and murder of 13 year old Kacie Woody. A young girl who trusted the wrong person on the internet.  Then Bettina lightens things up a bit for the “paranormal” portion of the episode – telling us the story of Devil’s Hole Cave as well as a few… random?… facts of Arkansas. Cheers!

**Special Note: this week’s episode has been made less graphic, to make it possible to share with a young teen. There is a lesson to be shared from this case. We wanted to be able to share it with as many listeners as possible.

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We know “stranger danger”, kids from preschool on up know of “stranger danger”, but how much do we really know about the dangers of the internet? On Dec 3, 2002 Kacie Woody and her family learned the horrible reality of the existence of online predators. In this episode Beth talks about some safety precautions to take to keep you and your family safe online. She goes on to talk about the case of Kacie Woody. Kacie thought she was chatting with 17 year old Dave Fagen from California, but was actually talking to 47 year old David Fuller. What ensued was a chain of events that ended tragically.

Bettina talks about the Self, Arkansas Devil’s Hole and the Gowrow that resides in the cavern. Don’t know what a Gowrow is? listen to find out. She also covers some little known Arkansas trivia, such as….Did you know it is legal to kill a bear in Arkansas, under the right circumstances, but illegal to wake one up with flash photography? Got your interest piqued yet? Join us for some more fun facts.

Kacie Woody had just turned 13 when on the night of Dec 3, 2002 she was abducted from her home in Faulkner County, Arkansas. https://thecinemaholic.com/kacie-rene-woody-murder-is-david-fuller-dead-or-alive/

This year, 2022, is the 20th anniversary of Kacie Woody’s death. In life she was a bubbly, energetic girl whose favorite color was yellow. She was kind and had a smile she readily shared. Her beautiful life was taken from her by a man, David Fuller, who she met in a chat room on the internet. https://int-missing.fandom.com/wiki/Kacie_Woody

In a Yahoo! Christian teen chat room that Kacie was in, 47 year old David Fuller claimed to be a 17-year-old boy named David “Dave” Fagen. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kacie_Woody

The Kacie Woody Foundation is a non-profit cooperation that was set up to make parents and their children aware of internet predictors. http://kaciewoody.homestead.com/index.html https://arkansasgravestones.org/view.php?id=821025

Cryptid Wiki has the Gowrow looking like this, but there are many other, different depictions of the creature. https://cryptidz.fandom.com/wiki/Arkansas_Gowrow

In Prescott, Arkansas a traveling salesman named Mike died. He was embalmed and put on display outside a funeral home. His corpse was nicknamed “Old Mike.” He died in 1911 and wasn’t buried until 1975. Just another bit of Arkansas trivia. https://www.onlyinyourstate.com/arkansas/13-weirdest-things-in-ar/amp/?fbclid=IwAR2ok8mTvRrc6UndRI8aU-0ptTaeoeDnab5Sx4YIXP7kzjDYPW7Kiu4U5R0






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